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Kevin Holland’s future has nothing to do with record and rankings

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Kevin Holland’s future has nothing to do with record and rankings

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Kevin Holland (23-7, 19 finishes) is scheduled Saturday to face Daniel Rodriguez (16-2, 12 finishes) in a 180-pound contest, 10 pounds above their typical welterweight limit, on the UFC 279 pay-per-view main card (10 p.m.). The event is headlined by 170-pounders Khamzat Chimaev and Nate Diaz. Ahead of the bout at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Holland chatted Thursday via Zoom with The Post’s Scott Fontana for this week’s Post Fight Interview Q&A.

Q: You were recently rapping in a music video with MGF Bandit. How did this come about?
A: The whole family has musical talent. My cousin, MGF Bandit, that’s what he does; he’s a rapper. I just wanted to use a little bit of the popularity I have to help push him. If we can get a few people in the family rich, then I’m not the only person in the family they have to ask for money. And I’m not saying I’m rich. I’m just saying, you know…

Q: Was this the first track you’ve ever rapped on?
A: Back in the day, like when I was getting ready for the Curtis Millender fight [in 2017], I literally wasn’t getting ready for the fight. My cousin had a studio in the house, and we were just smoking mad weed, drinking mad liquor and doing wraps the whole time. And then I looked up, and I was like, “Oh, f–k, I’m two weeks out from the fight.” And then I realized I needed to go start training. So yeah, it’s not the first time, it’s just the first time I actually like, alright, let’s put it out there.

Kevin Holland punches Tim Means in a welterweight fight on June 18, 2022.
Kevin Holland punches Tim Means in a welterweight fight on June 18, 2022.
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Q: I thought it was interesting you went with Big Mouth for your name instead of Kevin Holland or “Trailblazer,” your fight nickname. Obviously we know Dana White coined that but what made you pick it for music?
A: I just felt like Trailblazer wasn’t really like a rapping name. But I felt like Big Mouth was a real universal name. And I feel like a lot of people know me as Big Mouth, and then I got this big-ass Big Mouth chain. So everything has “TB” on it, but I just own the Big Mouth thing. It’s been my UFC, kind of clichéd thing. That’s where all the popularity comes from.

Q: This is your 11th fight since the pandemic hit, 16th total for the UFC. Jim Miller’s at 40 and climbing for the most UFC fights. How does the idea of taking that record someday sound, staying active for years to come?
A: Nah, I don’t see myself hitting 40. If I did five for the rest of my [career] … even if I did four — because five is probably not gonna happen — I’m at 16 now, I’ll be at 17 by the end of the year, that’ll put me at, what, 21 next year. Yeah, I don’t see myself hitting 40 fights in the UFC. Sucks, but I don’t see it happening (laughs).

Q: Is it because you don’t want to? Are you someone who says, “I’m not fighting past 40?”
A: Oh, I’m not fighting past 35. When I hit 36 years old, I’m done. That’s always been my number; that’s always been my goal. The goal was originally 34, retire for a year, and then come back. Yes, 36 in the number, so they’ve got five more good, magical years out of me because I turn 30 at the end of the year. It is what it is. I’m not complaining about it.

Kevin Holland celebrates his TKO victory over Alex Oliveira at UFC 272.
Kevin Holland celebrates his TKO victory over Alex Oliveira at UFC 272.
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Q: What happens after 36?
A: I’m a pretty talented guy. I could probably act a little bit if I truly wanted to. Maybe the rapping takes off and I can help some of the other rappers get their career up and going. I like helping other fighters get sponsors and stuff like that, so I don’t mind the whole management scene, so probably management and probably open up a gym one day. That’s probably more likely what I’ll do, so I can have a consistent job base, and open up a couple of small businesses, coach a few fighters with the guys that I came up with in the game and then try to become just as good as James Krause. That’s the goal, right? A really good coach. If I could f–king retire from fighting and be as good as that guy at coaching and be as good as my manager at managing, then I think I’d be doing a really good justice to the MMA community; more justice than I’m doing now, so that’d be awesome.

Q: You have said this is at 180 pounds because Daniel Rodriguez couldn’t make welterweight in time. Do you think the fact that this isn’t within that division works against your ability to move up in the rankings?
A: “D-Rod” was never really ranked to begin with right now. He was back in the day, but he’s not anymore. He probably should still have his ranking but doesn’t. It doesn’t really matter. A fight’s a fight. As long as I keep winning, it’s kind of hard to deny me anything. I have a decent buzz behind my name, and  as long as I keep collecting dubs [wins], it’s kind of hard to turn that down. I’ll just keep f–king climbing that ladder until I can’t climb that ladder anymore.

Q: You used to have a number next to your name as a ranked middleweight, but you still haven’t been ranked at welterweight. Did it surprise you that you weren’t ranked after getting a couple of wins at 170 pounds?
A: For sure. It was kind of confusing that I was once ranked at [185]. I took a fight at welterweight. I thought after I did my first welterweight win. I was gonna be ranked in two weight classes. I looked at the rankings on Tuesday, and I was f–king unranked at middleweight and unranked at welterweight. So I was like, “Oh, cool.” I got a second dub; still unranked. “Oh, cool.” I’ve never been the type of guy where that type of stuff matters. It’s nice to get credit where credit is due, but at the end of the day, I don’t really care. As long as I’m fighting, winning, that’s really what matters. Just going out there; just getting better every time.

Q: Do you recall your first experience watching MMA?
A: I remember my first time remembering watching mixed martial arts. That’s probably a better way to put it. I watched it with my grandfather a few times. He was flipping back and forth between boxing and that s–t, so it’s kind of hard to even cycle what the f–k’s been going on at the time. In between rounds, he’s like (pantomimes rapidly changing channels). Like, bro, how do you know what the hell’s going on in the fight? How do you do that? So I was sitting in the room one night, middle of the night, I woke up. TV was on Versus. WEC was on, and it was Urijah Faber versus Matt Brown. Urijah Faber’s hands were broke, smacking dude with elbows. [I’m] supposed to be going to sleep, got school the next morning, got work the next morning, but I was like, “Alright, cool. This s–t’s interesting.” I just kept watching it, just kept watching. Another fight came on, and I was like, “Damn, these little motherf–kers can fight.” So yeah, first time I really remember watching it, it had to be probably WEC or Strikeforce. I actually remember watching the Diaz brothers fight back in the day. My grandfather was a real big Diaz fan. 

Q: Typical walkaround weight between fights?
A: 192 pounds; 194.

Q: Typical weight for a welterweight bout on fight night?
A: 190 pounds; 192 pounds.

Q: So you just get back to your natural walkaround weight.
A: My body knows where it likes to be.

Q: Favorite post-weight cut meal?
A: If we’re at 185 pounds, I want to eat a spread. … [At 170 pounds], the body’s a little bit more clean. Can’t do those type of things, so it’s usually that little pasta meal they give you after weigh-ins. It has a little bit of meat in there and s–t. I like to throw some extra cheese on there; throw some hot sauce on that thang, and we good to go.

Q: Who in MMA do you most admire?
A: I admire all my people. Everybody that I associate with. I admire every single one of them. That’s why I associate with them. If they’re not on my team, and I don’t associate with them, it’s f–k ’em and feed ’em fish. And I hope it’s raw, nasty f–king spoiled fish, and their stomach starts to hurt.

Q: What’s the coolest technique in combat sports?
A: My right hand smacking you across the face because it usually means KO, baby.

Q: Favorite movie?
A: Honestly, nah, bro, I just go back and forth. I like this movie one day; this movie the next day. It’s all about how I feel.

Q: Favorite outdoor activity?
A: Shooting guns.

Q: Favorite video game?
A: “Call of Duty.” Shooting guns.

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